> The whole thing about jesus being an angel I also found on Bart Ehrman's blog
No surprise.
> The whole thing about jesus being an angel I also found on Bart Ehrman's blog
Not across all sides. Just with the new atheists willing to latch onto any perspective that gives academic credence to a position they presupposed.
> Jesus was considered an angel, but perhaps the head of the angels, like the archangel Michael.
This is patently false. Jesus was never considered an angel, even the head of the angels. Hebrews 1 shoots down that entire position, and no biblical text supports that Jesus was an angel.
> This is also apparent when the revelation of John of Patmos puts Jesus in the same apocalytic role that Michael had in the old testament apocalypse prophecies.
This is patently false. Revelation puts Jesus in the position of Son of Man, Lamb, Alpha & Omega, the Word of God, Faithful and True, King of kings and Lord of lords, the root and offspring of David, the bright and morning star, but NEVER angel.
> Jesus seems to replace Michael in nearly every way early on
This is patently false. Michael doesn't even appear in the book of Revelation until chapter 12, and then he only shows up once (12.7). Never again in the book. In Jude 9 Michael appears in similar fashion (doing battle with Satan), which seems to be his role in Daniel 10 & 12. It's Michael's role. Jesus's role in Revelation starts off as revealer (1.1), resurrected one (1.5), ruler of the kings of the earth (1.5), and redeemer (1.5; 5.6). To him belongs all power (1.6; 5.13). None of these are the role of Michael.
> then in the gospels he ... gains attributes of other lesser failed messiahs and priests.
This is patently false. Jesus does "gain" attributes from anywhere or anyone. He has no concern for other false or failed messiahs and gains nothing from them. Nor does he gain anything from failed priests.
> He is also apparently linked to the high priest Jesus/Joshua in Zechariah or the future person by the same name who is the other olive branch. The branch and the name refer to the same person who is supposed to free the Jews from their oppressors.
There is some linkage between Jesus and Joshua in Zechariah. The Zechariah texts are considered to be messianic prophecy. Joshua prefigures Jesus.
> The third option for the translation is that they received Paul as a messenger of God, the supreme messenger, Jesus Christ.
The point is not that they thought he was Jesus but that they treated him as well as they would have treated Jesus himself.
> he is an angelic being who is unknown to all until the apostles reveal the gospel that has been revealed to them.
This is patently false. Hebrews 1 effectively speaks directly against this very argument. It's also untrue from the nativity on. Jesus is prophesied as the Son of the Most High, the Messiah who will inherit David's throne, the one who will reign forever as God (Lk. 1.31-34). He is announced as the Savior Messiah (Lk. 2.11). He is baptized as the Son of God (Mt. 3.17). He is not angelic. And he is not unknown until the apostles reveal the gospel that has been revealed to them. Jesus himself is the revelation of the Father by his own teaching and testimony (Jn. 14.7-30). He makes Himself known long before the apostles are filled with the Holy Spirit to announce it to the larger world.
> Even if they talk about him as a man, they are still talking about a message that nobody on Earth gave to them.
This is patently false. Peter (Acts 2.22; 3.15) and John (Jn. 1.14; 1 Jn. 1.1-3) and all the apostles (Jn. 14.9-11) speak from the experience of their eyes and ears. They got their message from Jesus Himself, and they were empowered by the Holy Spirit to preach it.
> They don't pretend to be first hand accounts or even second hand testimony from humans who knew these things first hand.
This is patently false. Peter (Acts 2.22; 3.15) and John (Jn. 1.14; 1 Jn. 1.1-3) and all the apostles (Jn. 14.9-11) speak from the experience of their eyes and ears. Luke got his from eyewitnesses (Lk. 1.1-3).
> They either made the story up about a guy based on old testament prophecy or they made up stories about some guy based on old testament prophecy.
This is not plausible. The Gospels don't bear out a possibility of this. No one in an honor/shame culture would make up the crucifixion for their messiah. They quote Jesus a number of times with sayings that could inhibit their cause. All four Gospels tell of Peter's failure in denying Jesus. Mark's Gospel has nothing good to say about the disciples in the whole book except Peter's confession. All four Gospels portray the disciples as lacking understanding and being fearful and ultimately disloyal at his crucifixion. You'd be hard pressed to imagine why the disciples or anyone who looked to them for leadership or spiritual insight would make up these stories. They wouldn't write a Gospel where a virgin gave birth, shepherds proclaimed his birth, and women were the first at the tomb. They wouldn't write a book of outrageous miracles in the very country where eyewitnesses still abounded. They wouldn't make up a resurrection because there was no such possibility in Greek, Roman, or Jewish theology.
> With a historical guy you might speculate about why they had to make him born in Bethlehem even though he was from Nazareth
This is patently untrue. He was born in Bethlehem. Both Matthew 2.1 and Luke 2.6 claim Bethlehem as the birthplace of Jesus. There is no evidence to the contrary.
> He doesn't seem to be from that city in any of Paul's epistles yet a Greek author who knew nothing of Jewish rituals and geography places him there.
Matthew, a Levite Jew, also places his birth in Bethlehem (Mt. 2.1). Paul only speaks of His birth as being to a Jewish woman (Gal. 4.4).
> The gospels that come after that one don't bother to get rid of that location in the three in the modern canon.
This is an illegitimate claim. No one knows the exact order the Gospels were written, nor even exactly when they were written. No one.
> This is where the problems with historicity arise.
Your case and "facts" are more the problem. There is no substantiation for anything you have said, even 5, 6, 7 exchanges into the conversation. Everyone is entitled to her own opinion, but not to her own facts.
> There isn't really anything that can be trusted to refer to a man who actually existed when the same types of stories are written about people who never did.
We've covered this ground. In support of Jesus's historicity, We have (in order of their credibility) Thallus, Pliny, Suetonius, Josephus, The Egerton Papyrus, the James Ossuary, Tacitus, Ignatius of Antioch, and Paul. In rebuttal you have offered nothing: no evidence, no support, no facts.
> If we had something beyond the myths
Presumably you only assume they are myths because you presuppose that miracles are impossible. That's circular reasoning.
> The majority of people described in the same way never existed - Harry Potter, Darth Vader, Elijah, the archangel Michael, superman
The Gospels are nothing like Harry Potter, Darth Vader, or superman.
> The ones who we know for sure existed have statues, pictures, money, books they wrote, and contemporary literature describing them as ordinary people.
These are not the only criteria for believability, nor for historicity.