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[Free Thinker]

How can we tell what sins are objective and which are subjective?

[jimwalton]

We study the Bible and we use our brains.

[Free Thinker]

If that is the case then all sin becomes based on our subjective brains, right? If it is up to us to study the Bible and use our brains then the results will be subjective.

[jimwalton]

> If that is the case then all sin becomes based on our subjective brains, right?

No. Wrong. Most sin is objective. The Bible tells us what sin is, and it's fairly clear. Most of the time there is no debate about it. Only in certain instances is there any element of subjectivity to it.

> If it is up to us to study the Bible and use our brains then the results will be subjective.

So, are you saying that when scientists study nature and use their brains, all of our scientific knowledge is subjective? I think not. Deep, legitimate study and using our brains doesn't necessarily end us up in the land of subjectivity.

[Ingenuity]

> So what you're saying is that you agree with me

No what I was saying is when I bring up things in the old testament christian will tell me "we'll that's old testament" so if what I bring up is irrelevant (or doesn't count) so is everything else.

And I'm going to bow out here because we will just keep going in circles over what's culturally acceptable and what the bible actually says. Everything in the bible was written with the current culture in mind. This is clear when you look at old vs new testament. Which means everything can change.

[jimwalton]

> No what I was saying is when I bring up things in the old testament christian will tell me "we'll that's old testament" so if what I bring up is irrelevant (or doesn't count) so is everything else.

It's obvious you were agreeing with me, thinking that OT environment and rules were somehow different—and they are, which is the point.

But the OT is very relevant. It's the inspired Word of God, just like the NT.

> And I'm going to bow out here because we will just keep going in circles over what's culturally acceptable and what the bible actually says. Everything in the bible was written with the current culture in mind. This is clear when you look at old vs new testament. Which means everything can change.

This is not true, either. Everything in the Bible was written in a cultural context, and it was written TO them, but it is also written FOR us. The principles in the OT carry through to all of us. It's certainly not true that "everything can change." Rape, for instance, is wrong no matter where, no matter who, no matter when. Murder is wrong. Kindness is good. Forgiveness is noble. These things never change.